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The Supreme Court hears arguments Tuesday in a case about so-called conversion therapy, when a counselor tries to convince someone that they’re not gay or transgender. Major medical associations have found the practice dangerous.

Here & Now‘s Robin Young speaks with Martha Conley and her son, Garrard Conley, who have firsthand experience with conversion therapy and both oppose it. Martha Conley is part of an amicus brief in favor of a Colorado law that bans the practice.

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