The Gift of Desperation, A Conversation with Al | WYPR

The Gift of Desperation, A Conversation with Al

Jul 15, 2019

Theo and his guest, Al, originally met over a chessboard when they were incarcerated. Today, they’re both addiction recovery veterans who are passing along their wisdom and experience to a younger generation.

In this episode, Al speaks with Theo about stubbornness, suicidal ideations, and what he calls, 'The gift of desperation.'